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Theories about Jaime

Author: Alex Vie
Title: Jaime theories
Language: en-US
Created: 19:48 on Sunday, 17. September 2017
Modified: 19:48 on Sunday, 17. September 2017

Jaime Lannister is one of the most interesting characters in Game of Thrones. This is mainly, because he has evolved such a lot.

After he parted ways with his lover-sister at the end of season 7, he is now on his way towards the north. This opens a lot of potential for speculations and theories.

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Jaime’s moral stance is far less fucked up than his sister’s. He is like a troubled Jedi Knight who has fallen to the dark side, but there is still hope; he is not completely lost yet. But this can lead to more than interesting cases of utterly broken and defective idiotic cases of bullshittery. So what can we say is easily the problem of more interesting idiots and likewise dumb actions that we do not find very amusing after all. the problem is not really

Jaime Lannister is one of my favorite characters next to Arya, The Hound, Cersei and Brienne. This was not always the case, I remember disliking him a lot during the first season and thought he was a boring and pointless character whose evil nature did not appear very believable to me. Well, maybe it did not, because Jaime’s nature is not necessarily pure evil; instead, it is a much more complex mixture wit many nuances. It also changed a lot over the course of the show..

During season one, he was the barely likable arrogant, self centered, snob-ish kingslayer, who likewisely did not really see the problem at all. most
believed he was the greatest sword fighter of all time and crippled an innocent young boy, because he and his even more evil sister didn’t want to face consequences for their treacherous and incestious behavior.

Jaime loses his sword hand - a character-defining moment.
Jaime loses his sword hand - a character-defining moment.
Jaime loses his sword hand - a character-defining moment.

His excessive amount of self-confidence quickly took a sharp decline when he fell prisoner to the Starks at the end of season 1, and was ultimately shattered in season 3, when his fate as best sword fighter in all of Westeros was sealed at the hands of Locke and Jaime lost his sword hand in an act of violence. Well deserved for being such a disgusting asshole was probably what many fans, including myself, were thinking. Some even sympathized with Locke for doing what he did, because Jaime’s arrogance at first didn’t fade as a prisoner and he repeatedly mocked his captors, telling them how rich his family was and that he was worth way too much and therefore had to remain unharmed. Guess, he was wrong.

take all your money and put it where the sun never shines, here’s what I think of you and your goddamn rich family

Might very well be what Locke thought when he delivered the blow to Jaime’s arm.

Since then, he changed, but his loyalty for his family and his beloved sister probably prevented him from breaking up with Cersei earlier, the hints were always there though. It started during the famous steam bath scene when he explained to Brienne his motivations and the decision process behind murdering King Aerys II1 and ended with the final confrontation with his sister in the seventh season’s final episode. In between, he often enough showed that his moral stance is not even remotely as fucked up as his sister’s. Signs of emotional disconnection from his dominating sister were observable for those looking carefully on various occasions:

  • He saved Tyrion, because he believed he was innocent. He had to trust him though, because back in season 4, no proof of Tyrion’s innocence did exist. We have seen he learned that from Olenna Tyrell in S07E03.

  • In season 6, he showed generosity and that he can solve conflicts by negotiation without having to draw blood during his deeds in Riverrun.

  • On various occasions, he showed emotional bonds to Brienne, not because he thought she was hot, but he was visibly impressed by what she is. Her stance on virtues like loyalty, honor and how she stuck to her words and kept her oaths and promises, impressed him. He also had to recognize soon after he met her, that she was a formidable sword fighter, maybe better than he ever was.

  • In season 7, he was the one who convinced Cersei Olenna should have a peaceful death. It is questionable whether he had still done this, had he known about Olenna being the master mind behind Joffrey’s gruesome death.

Theories for the final season

Here is an interesting one. It links Westeros with ancient norse mythology and deduces that Jaime could be the Azor Ahai. Granted, it is an older theory, but most of the listed evidence is still valid and at least somewhat plausible. The link to norse mythology is an interesting approach, but it is unclear whether GRRM used it for some kind of inspiration.

This tries to explain it without links to norse mythology and it does sound plausible on quite a few levels.

Personally, I don’t really like these theories, because they are flawed for a couple of reasons:

  • Jaime is no prince, unless, he really is a Targaryen and, together with his sister, a bastard child of Aerys II and Joanna Lannister (Tywin’s wife), like it is speculated in the theory above. Personally, I don’t really like this, because it’s just another one more hidden Targaryen theory of which we already have our fair share.

  • Jaime is no longer the hero-class sword fighter. He may have improved a lot with his left hand, but I doubt he would hold up well against a White Walker or one of the top fighters in the realm.

I’m more consent with the stuff that follows below, particularly, with him becoming his sister’s fate.

Jaime will kill his sister

Another popular one that got fueled dramatically in season 7, but was around much earlier due to all the prophecies made to Cersei by fortuneteller Maggy the Frog at the beginning of season 5.

Oh yes. You will be queen, for a time … until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear.

This is generally seen as a reference to Daenerys, who is a) younger, b) arguably more beautiful and c) very much determined to cast down Cersei and take the Iron Throne for herself, but it could have been misunderstood by Cersei as reference to either Sansa Stark or Margaery Tyrell. Both were young and beautiful and while Sansa, unlike Margaery, did not become Queen, she got pretty close. Cersei’s interpretation of the prophecy explains her animosity towards the two young ladies - she hated them, because she felt threatened and she thought they were standing in her way and one of them may strip her of all the powers she so dearly loves.

So far, so good, but in all those prophecies concerning Cersei’s future, there was no reference to Jaime, right? She was told she will have three children, but all three will die, she was promised to have an unhappy marriage and she would be queen. So, it’s safe to say, Maggy the Frog was right in all she said, except that Cersei is now pregnant with her fourth child when the prophecy only granted her three. But the fourth child is unborn, so it’s too early to say Maggy was wrong:

  • the child may die at or before birth. Prophecy remains true.

  • Cersei will die, either during birth or before it. Now, as a queen, she is probably the best protected human being in all of Westeros, but we know from experience that kings or queens are far from safe in this world.

But, still, not a single connection to Jaime, right?

In the show, indeed none of Maggy’s prophecies can be linked to Jaime, but this is because the show omitted one prophecy from the book that opens up quite a few new paths:

When your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.

According to GRRM, valonqar is high-valyrian language and means younger sibling2, which can bei either Jaime (her younger twin brother) or Tyrion, the youngest Lannister offspring - if the prophecy was about one of Cersei’s own siblings at all, which we do not know. It could also mean simply any other sibling, for example, the Stark sisters or Daenerys as the younger sister of Viserys. If that is indeed the case, a lot of identities for the valonqar would seem plausible.

In my opinion, this theory holds more merit than the Azor Ahai theory outlined above. There are quite a few reasons for Jaime having accumulated enough hate:

  • Her act of utter madness at the end of season 6. She used Wildfire to blow up the Sept of Baelor, destroying a significant part of the city, probably killing hundreds or thousands in the process. Quite similar to what the Mad King had planned on a completely different scale, but still an act of major violence. We also know, how Jaime responded and what intention he had in making this decision (they were nobler than they seemed at first glance).

  • Jaime thinks, Tommen’s death is her fault and it certainly is. She didn’t even want to discuss it with him.

  • Olenna said, she was regretting spreading the disease, which is how she has characterized Cersei, and promised Jaime will too [regret it]. She also confessed having orchestrated Joffrey’s death, thus confirming Tyrion’s innocence.

  • He might think that Cersei will abandon him anyway in favor of Euron, who served her well enough during season 7 and will continue to serve her into season 8 by ferrying the Golden Company to Westeros.

Jaime and Cersei in season 7 episode 1
Jaime and Cersei in season 7 episode 1
Jaime and Cersei in season 7 episode 1

Then we have this image seen by many as a big hint on how Cersei may die later in the show. We see her standing on the neck of Westeros (the narrowest part) while Jaime has positioned himself near the part that is commonly known as fingers.

It is very consistent with the valonqar prophecy from the books, which states that a little sibling (or brother) will strangle her while she drowns in her own tears3.

Can this co-exist with the Jaime=Azor Ahai theory?

Sort of it, but it’s still unlikely. The Azor Ahai theory states that the Prince that was promised sacrificed his wife in order to fulfill his purpose by driving his newly forged sword directly into her heart, forging the weapon capable of destroying the Great Other in the process.

It could be that this is just a metaphor. What if Cersei becomes a White Walker and Jaime has to kill her using his Valyrian Steel sword? In that case, the hint seen on the picture above would just be a hint at what’s going to happen on a global scale (Jaime killing Cersei), but not in detail.

It could also mean, Arya taking revenge on all Lannisters by first killing Jaime and then using his face to assassinate Cersei. Since the Lannisters are to blame for the downfall of the Starks, Arya’s hate is probably still significant and we know that mercy is not one of her strongest virtues as being merciful contradicts being a member of the faceless men. Arya also possibly matches the valonqar pattern, as she is a little sister (or sibling).


Only one so far. Jaime will play his important part in season 8, that I am sure of. He finally parted with his sister, after realizing how abusive she always has been towards him. She never really listened to him, she always did how she felt, ignoring his wishes (the bed scene in season 7 was a good example - she reveals everything to their servants, and completely ignores his objections). She scolded him for being stupid and for never listening to their father when he was talking about the importance of gold, forgetting that without him and his men she wouldn’t sit on the heaps of gold taken from Highgarden.

He probably also realized that the death of all their children was mostly, if not exclusively, her fault.

So, in short, I think, Jaime and Cersei will meet again and nobody can tell what will happen when they re-unite. I’m pretty sure though, they are not going to share a bed.

  1. We know the King was not only a cruel person, but also mad and planned to burn the capital and every single soul in it, because he was hearing voices

  2. There has been quite a lot of speculation about the exact meaning of this word. Initially, its meaning has been determined as little brother, but this could be wrong. From the prophecy concerning the Prince that was promised, we know that the high-valyrian language made use of many gender-neutral words. Consequently, it is possible that the prince mentioned in said prophecy could also be a princess, and valonqar’s true meaning could indeed be little sibling

  3. Drowning in tears could hint at the death of her fourth child, either losing it while still being pregnant or wile giving birth. 

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